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iPhone 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Alpha – Progress vs Stagnation

Samsung had a pretty good run earlier this year after the release of the Samsung Galaxy S5 flagship smartphone. The device was quickly dubbed by many “the best smartphone on the market”, but things changed pretty fast as competitors started to surface. Before the iPhone 6 there was the LG G3, which contributed a lot to the poor sales of the Samsung Galaxy S5 in the second quarter. For a while there people were saying that Samsung was planning on releasing a Prime version of their flagship in order to compete better, but we haven’t heard much about this device since then. Instead, the Korean tech giant came up with the Samsung Galaxy Alpha, a metallic smartphone meant to compete with the iPhone 6.

Well, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha is now available for purchase in certain countries and more are expected to follow in the near future, but did Samsung deliver on its promise? Seeing as how the iPhone 6 was also announced and detailed earlier this month we decided to make a comparison between the two and find out. Now, Apple announced two versions of its highly anticipated flagship, but we’ll only be looking at the regular iPhone 6 for this comparison as the iPhone 6 Plus is too big to be a suitable competitor to the Samsung Galaxy Alpha. Without further ado, let’s pit these two devices against each other and see what each of them can bring to the table.

The Samsung Galaxy Alpha features a metallic frame that’s definitely a welcome departure from the plastic design traditionally associated with Galaxy devices. However, this isn’t really an advantage over the iPhone 6 as Apple’s flagship also features a metallic design and more rounded edges if you’re into that sort of thing. It’s hard to say which of them looks better as they are both visually appealing, but the Samsung Galaxy Alpha definitely looks a bit more rugged. However, the iPhone 6 is generally considered to be a more comfortable device to wield so it really depends on user preference here. In terms of display, both handsets come equipped with 4.7-inch panels, but there is a slight difference in terms of resolution. While the Samsung Galaxy Alpha sports 720 x 1280 pixels and 312 PPI, the iPhone 6 offers 750 x 1334 pixels and 326 PPI. That being said, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha’s screen uses Super AMOLED technology, which offers more realistic colors than the iPhone 6’s LED-backlit IPS LCD display.

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The Samsung Galaxy Alpha offers more realistic colors thanks to its Super AMOLED display.

Hardware-wise, we’re seeing some pretty important differences between the two. The Samsung Galaxy Alpha comes in two variants, one sporting a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 quad-core CPU @ 2.5 GHz while the other features the Exynos 5430 octa-core processor with four cores clocked at 1.8 GHz and four cores running at 1.3 GHz. I think most would agree that both variants feature some pretty impressive processors, but the iPhone 6 is nothing to sneeze at either as it comes equipped with the new 64-bit Apple A8 chipset complete with a dual-core 1.4 GHz Cyclone dual-core processor. A weakness of the device is that it only features 1 GB of RAM while its competitor can account for 2 GB. On the other hand, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha only has 32 GB of internal storage memory and there is no microSD card slot so that’s as far as it can go. Admittedly, the iPhone 6’s standard model only has 16 GB of storage, but Apple’s flagship also has 64GB and 128 GB variants so there’s definitely more diversity here.

Moving on to some of the other specs, we’re still a bit in the dark when it comes to the iPhone 6’s battery size as this was one of the few aspects that was not revealed yet. However, Apple did promise a much better battery than on the iPhone 5s and word on the street is that we will be looking at a 1,810 mAh unit. By comparison, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha features a 1860 mAh battery so a little bit bigger, but the difference is barely there. To be honest, both devices are pretty unimpressive in the battery department so it’s hard to recommend any of them based solely on that. Apple did promise various improvements that should help with the battery life, but we’ll just have to wait and see. In regards to the cameras, the difference is a bit more obvious as the Samsung Galaxy Alpha packs a 12 MP primary shooter with LED flash. The iPhone 6 only features an 8 MP camera, but comes with dual-LED flash and more features than its competitor so it’s definitely not bad either.

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The iPhone 6 and Samsung Galaxy Alpha each offers certain advantages compared to the other in the camera department.

So far so good, but what about the price? Well. it’s no secret that iPhones are generally more expensive than their Android counterparts and things are no different with the iPhone 6. However, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha is a pretty expensive handset as well to be honest. Granted, we don’t know the official US price yet, but we do know that an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Alpha costs 699.95 CAD in Canada, which translates to about 637 USD. Meanwhile, a contract-free iPhone 6 is priced at $650 (16GB), $750 (64 GB) or $850 (128 GB). As expected, the iPhone 6 is more expensive, but the difference is not that huge all things considered. As for the release date, the device is expected to be available for purchase in the US on September 19th. The Samsung Galaxy Alpha is now available in the UK, Russia and a handful of other countries, with more to follow in the near future including Canada on September 26th. Unfortunately we don’t know when it will arrive in the US, but rumor has it that we should hear an announcement very soon and a release sometime early next month.

Another important aspect that needs mentioning is the operating system. Both smartphones run on the latest version of their respective OS, but the iPhone 6 runs on the recently released major update, the iOS 8. The Samsung Galaxy Alpha comes equipped with the Android 4.4.4 KitKat and it’s hard to predict when it will upgrade to Android L seeing as how it wasn’t released yet. Samsung generally lags behind when it comes to updates, but recently we saw it step its game up a bit. Still, Samsung will likely focus on updating the Samsung Galaxy S5 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 first so the Alpha might not be a top priority for them.

Bottom line? It doesn’t look like Samsung really achieved what it was planning to do with the Samsung Galaxy Alpha. The device seems too expensive for what it offers so you might as well go buy a Samsung Galaxy S5, which is cheaper and comes with better specs and a larger screen. It almost looks like Samsung is charging more just for the metallic frame as there are hardly any other improvements over its current flagship. The iPhone 6 on the other hand is just what you’d expect and it’s also pretty expensive, but Apple did make a lot of improvements over the iPhone 5s so at least it’s trying to offer something better than last year. I am tempted to go with the iPhone 6 for this one as the Samsung Galaxy Alpha seems like a rip-off in many ways. If you’re an iOS user, there are certainly many things to look forward to here because you get the new iOS 8 plus several features and improvements over the previous model. If you’re an Android user, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha doesn’t really bring anything new to the table here so it’s pretty hard to recommend. But as always, this is just a mere comparison and the final decision is up to you.

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The iPhone 6 will cost you a bit more, but at least you’re getting some improvements over the previous model for that money.

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  • a67543210

    The iPhone 6 is equivalent to the Nexus 4, which is 2012 phone. We are heading to 2015 and the only major improvement is the camera. Everything else( screen size, resolution etc) is 2012ish.

    • KefkaPelazzo

      So where is Android’s 64 bit competitor to the last model released by Apple?

      Android is technologically speaking at least a year behind Apple in cpu technology. The 64 bit phones being floated by Android OEMs are a joke.

      • 64 bits was a gimmick. You are just seeing the proof in nobody caring yet.

        • KefkaPelazzo

          It wasn’t a gimmick and any such claim demonstrates gross ignorance the facts.

          The 32 bit environment had essentially been legacy since Apple shipped OS X 10.5 in 2007.

          Tthe Objective-C 2.0 runtime, the basis of Apple’s entire development toolchain, is 64 bit only. Apple had long ago made the move to 64 bit computing on OS X 10.6 with support beginning in OS X 10.4 The entire development platform had moved to 64 bit including XCode, Clang, LLVM, Cocoa, etc. It was costing Apple significant resources to maintain separate 32 and 64 bit environments. The phone was Apple’s last 32 bit device.

          • It was a gimmick, and any pretending it wasn’t shows an ability to repeat marketing rhetoric while understanding nothing.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I’ve been writing software since I was seven years old. I’m a second generation geek. My father grew up across the street from Xerox’s Palo Alto Research Center. I’ve been an independent contractor in IT for about twenty-five years. WBU?

            Sorry, ignorant Fandroid, but you simply aren’t aware of the facts.

            Apple’s entire development environment had moved to a 64-bit platform as of 2007. 32-bit support was essentially legacy. This can be seen not only in the fact that the Objective-C 2.0 runtime was only available under 64-bit platforms. That has nothing to do with marketing and everything to with trimming support for legacy architectures and advancing software development tools and techniques on iOS and OS X. Non-brittle instance variables anyone? While it’s true that the Objective-C language was generally immune to fragile base class problems, 32-bit Obj-C apps and libraries did suffer from brittle instance variables.

            Do you even know what an instance variable is, Fandroid? Do you even know what an instance is?

            Do you have anything but sour grapes to offer as an argument to support your position? I can cite Apple developer documentation that specifies the 64-bit nature of Objective-C 2.0.

          • I’ve written code you’ve used. 64 bits was a gimmick son. They jumped ARM’s scheduled 64 bit roadmap and copied the Cortex A53 processor almost entirely, except they replaced the PAE40 memory controller with a 64 bit one. They did it because they are out of ideas, and they knew they could convince idiots it mattered. You don’t need 64 bits unless you have apps that need more than 4gb of addressable memory. They could have used the same graphics with a 32 bit processor and not have the horrendous triangle count and ragdoll physics. Apple just doesn’t like to admit it when they are wrong, despite the fact they’ve been wrong about smaller tablets, bigger phones, and they had to copy the Galaxy Gear.

            For the rest of us, this is an excellent example of how great Apple’s marketing is. Otherwise sane people under the influence of the dunning-kruger effect jump all over themselves to defend their marketing tactics.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Given from your complete lack of counter-arguments to the fact that Apple had began migrating its platforms and APIs to 64-bit years before the 64-bit iPhone shipped and your complete lack counter-arguments as to why Google, Android OEMs, and their suppliers began pursuing 64-bit technology with the launch of the 64-bit iPhone, given you complete lack of counter-arguments to the fact that 32-bit code was legacy at Apple (for another example see Carbon), I’m going to go with “it wasn’t a gimmick”.

            I don’t care if Apple used ARM’s technology. ARM was started as a joint venture between Apple, Acorn, and VLSI.

            “they could have used the same graphics with a 32 bit processor and not have the horrendous triangle count and ragdoll physics.”

            Metal. That is all.

            Apple wasn’t wrong and the more Google, Android OEMs, and suppliers jump on the bandwagon, the more testament there will be to the lead Apple established with the iPhone 5.

            You can whine about marketing all you want, but anybody who knows anything about development on Apple platforms knows that Objective-C 2.0 was 64-bit only. It was a new development and implementing a 32-bit version would have been a difficult and expensive venture in creating code that would have been legacy the day it shipped.

          • All you have to do is notice that Android phones are hitting 3GB now. Once they hit 4+ it will matter. That’s why smarter companies haven’t bothered with 64 bits yet. They’ve had no need. And yes, I ignored your copypasta. People pretending to be experts rub me the wrong way. You are lucky I’m replying at all.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            There was no copy-pasta, everything I wrote was hand typed, but I can understand why, when I’ve utterly destroyed your argument that you would need to resort to outright lies.

            I’m not pretending to be an expert. I’m a computer programmer with nearly 25 years of software development experience as both hobbyist and professional. I’ve been developing using the technologies behind Apple’s OS X since they were known as OpenStep. I wrote my first web apps in 1994. You’ve yet to detail your own credentials, however. My software went to six continents and was referenced in five languages before Apple conceived the modern smart phone. 🙂

            I’m lucky you are replying? I’d wager it was your bank account that was lucky as it seems you’re one of many paid shills spreading lies and propaganda.

          • Your points are Apple Insider talking points that have been debunked by experts like myself many many times.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’re no expert, you’re a paid schill.

            Fact: Apple began migrating to 64-bit platforms with OS X 10.4.
            Fact: Apple shipped a 64-bit userland in OS X 10.5.
            Fact: Apple had been deprecating 32 bit technologies (i.e. Carbon).
            Fact: The Objective-C 2.0 runtime is 64-bit only.
            Fact: Swift relies on Objective-C 2.0.
            Fact: Swift was under development as of 2010.
            Fact: Apple’s tools/APIs were 64-bit before the iPhone 5S shipped.
            Fact: The actions of Google, Android OEMs, and suppliers validate Apple’s strategy.

          • Apple shipped their Samsung designed A53 copy so rushed it had ARM 64 bit instructions and swift 32 bit. Your entire argument boils down to “but Apple” when you reduce the equation. That’s not lost on me. There were exactly zero technical reasons to go 64 bit. They could have done everything they did 32 bit. The only real reason to jump the ARM Roadmap if you aren’t going to be addressing more then 4GB of physical ram is to pretend you did something first. Something Apple loves to do because the non-technical aren’t smart enough to understand that a bigger number doesn’t always mean better.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            They could have done everything they did in both 32-bit and 64-bit environments and wasted a lot more money creating API that would be legacy the day it shipped. That would be just a brilliant business decision. After they’ve ported the development OS, their tool chain, their compilers, their libraries to 64-bit to make a 32-bit Objective-C 2.0 runtime. They knew 64-bit was the future for their company as far back as OS X 10.4 Tiger when they began integrating 64-bit support for the PowerPC G5 architecture.

            Once again, Apple co-founded ARM with Acorn and VSLI so it really doesn’t matter if they were using ARM.

            Apple, as a company, has spoken out strongly against the bigger is better/megahertz myth. This was most pronounced when Apple’s Macs were using PowerPC processors. Apple addressed the issue publicly at an Expo in New York as far back as 2001 that is available on youtube for anybody that cares to look. If memory serves they ran a couple of commercials on the subject as well.

            Oh and the a53 is ARM’s IP, not Samsung’s. Samsung just licensed it. From a company Apple co-founded.

            How many 32 bit products has Apple delivered since the introduction of the 64-bit iPhone?

            Oh that’s right, none.

            As to TSMC and Samsung, Apple doesn’t run its own fabs. Designing microprocessors is a world apart from manufacturing microprocessors. That is one of the reasons even giants like Intel often have trouble ramping up production of new designs.

          • They knew idiots would think it mattered. Clearly they did.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            That would certainly explains why Google, its OEMs, and their suppliers jumped on the bandwagon.

          • Yes it would. Because there’s something called the ARM Roadmap that you keep ignoring because you are an Apple zealot. That “bandwagon” has been planned for 3 years. Now losers like yourself can pretend people are copying Apple. Neat huh? Being turned into a tool by Apple.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I’m not ignoring the ARM roadmap. You are ignoring the fact that Apple was able to proceed down that path faster than Android OEMs who also use mostly ARM CPUs.

            Oops.

            Oh look, more name calling to go along with your complete and utter inability to address the facts.

          • You are pretending it matters, after being shown by your betters that it doesn’t.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’re nobody’s better, your an opinionated and ignorant fanboi that can’t back up any of your arguments. My guess is you’re probably a paid shill.

            “It’s all the ARM roadmap, Apple didn’t do anything!”

            “I can’t explain why Google OEMs followed the same roadmap so much more slowly.”

            “There were no benefits to 64-bit iOS and iPhone.”

            “Apple should have paid money to develop and maintain legacy environments so Android users like me wouldn’t feel so insecure!”

          • Have you noticed that nobody is backing your position? Because it’s impossible? They think are are a dumb college kid with an apple fetish.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            That’s not the story the votes paint, Scott.

            I don’t go by the opinions of ignorant fanbois nor do I find any value in running with the herd.

          • You get that you haven’t said a single original thing in this argument right? You have been recycling all the Apple Insider arguments. I’ve had this argument a thousand times with folks actually qualified to have it.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            And what are your qualifications again, Scott?
            Oh right, you’re a blogger!

          • When you can’t attack the argument, and the ton of people telling you that you are wrong, you attack the poster. Just like Apple.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I’ve asked you repeatedly to state your qualifications. You insist you’re more qualified to know the facts about Apple’s development environment than somebody who has been using it since before iOs was even conceived, but we’re just supposed to take your word for it?

            I’m not attacking you, Scott. I’m not calling you an idiot, making mention of your inferiority, etc, etc, etc. I’m attacking your supposedly superior, and yet miraculously non-existent credentials which you tout as greater than my own. I’m just asking you to back it up.

            C’mon, Mr. Blogger, what exactly are your credentials? Why does your blog talk about racism and how the media is controlling us and not CPU pipelining and branching conditions? i do see your recent post about how you were struggling with Stratum configs for BTC, something I stopped playing with a year ago. I guess that’s somewhat technical, but frankly when you can’t even configure your own BitCoin client, you probably lack the expertise to speak authoritatively on Apple’s development environment.

            Not to mention your blogs give us ample demonstration of preexisting bias on your part, such as the gem entitled: “Google: Saving Us From An Apple Enslavement Future…”

            ROFLCOPTER

          • Child, my data is good. My qualifications are I’ve been an Apple user, and data architect for 25 years. I’ve got code in Apache, BIND, and Hybrid IRCd. But it’s meaningless. Because you haven’t been able to refute a single point I’ve made and you haven’t been able to prove a single point you’ve made.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I saw your photo on your blog, pal. I’d doubt you’re even 25 years old, let alone worked for Apple or as a “data architect” for 25 years.

            BTW that’s about the most ostentatious title I’ve ever heard for “database administrator”. So then you’re familiar with ANSI/IEEE Std 1471-2000, then?

            Oooh, you’ve got code an Apache? I’ve got code on six continents.

            The Apple developer docs prove my point about the Objective-C 2.0 runtime. You’ve failed to demonstrate the existence a 32-bit Objective-C 2.0 runtime.

            The Android OEMs jumping on board the bandwagon, albeit a year late, prove my point about the correctness of Apple’s decision to move forward with 64-bit.

            The marketing factor was just icing on the cake, little buddy.

          • I’m 42. I just look damn good because I work out and have fantastic genes. “Coded an Apache”? You do know Apache is what OSX is bundled with right? At what point do you stop pretending you are an expert?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’re a DBM and a blogger. I’ve been working with Apple’s development environment for the better part of 20 years, kid. Fairly certain my expertise of its internals is a bit beyond your own.

            Which is why you’ve been able to say nothing except “Apple could have done that” in reference to maintaining a dead-end 32-bit Objective-C 2.0 runtime. Sure they could have, but running a good business is about making good decisions.

            I won’t pretend to understand the black wizardry, but I know enough about it to know back porting it to a 32-bit architecture would have been non-trivial.

          • I’m not a DBM. I’m an architect. I wear like eight hats. I’m closest to an old net-boom position called “Czar” honestly. I do application development on glassfish/oracle/microstrategy/informatica and I do lead level UNIX architecture, and I do project management, and I’m the resident ITIL/HIPAA compliance guy. I take your hospital’s aging decrepit infrastructure and migrate it from HP/UX or Solaris to Cisco UCS chassis running vmware and RHEL, write all glue code, then use puppet and spacewalk and foreman and graphite to make you your very own cloud to satisfy the requirements of the healthcare and financial industries, which aren’t trivial. That’s what I do currently when I’m not busy setting up huge Bitcoin mining ops.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’re a data modeler. You’re no more an architect than I am an engineer. I’m a programmer. Fancy words don’t really impress me. I don’t see OS X or iOS mentioned anywhere in your professional duties or even listed as a hobby. While your credentials are impressive, I think I’m going to go with the folks from Apple that said a 32-bit backport of the Objective-C 2.0 runtime would be “non-trivial”.

            I’m sure if they threw enough resources at it, they could have gotten it done, but why would they do that when they haven’t introduced any 32-bit devices since the launch of the 5S?

          • The enterprise doesn’t use OSX for anything mission critical. Even Apple uses Linux for webservers.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Which explains Apple’s coupling with IBM to produce more enterprise technologies together I’m sure.

            And Enterprises do use OS X for iOS device management, chum. And iOS development.

            Apple’s computer business is one of the more financially successful operations in the industry. Apple ships OS X on all of their Macs, I’d say it’s pretty mission critical to them. And to the millions that buy Macs every year. Add to that recording studios, effects studios, the publishing industry. Of course there work isn’t mission critical to their industries, right?

            As to Apple’s web servers, the used to run Solaris and OS X. Netcraft just shows listings for Akamai CDN hubs which do run Linux. They’re using Oracle and IBM in their data centers, according to MacWorld.

          • What does IBM partnering with Apple over iOS enterprise apps have to do with OSX not being used as a Server OS by anybody, even Apple?

            Apple doesn’t even run iCloud. They lack the skill. It’s all Microsoft Azure and AWS.

            Your apologizing for Apple is going all over the place now. You get that you can’t BS me right? Why are you trying?

            Do you even know what mission critical means?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You really have a hard time keeping up, don’t you?

            We’re supposed to be talking about that roadmap Android OEMs couldn’t keep up with. Now you want to talk about OS X as a server because the rest of your arguments have crumbled under your feet and you feel vindictive because somebody broke your little “64 bit was a marketing gimmick” myth wide open.

            I’m fairly certain OS X is used by a number many Fortune 500 companies to manage their iOS devices. 97% of Fortune 500 companies use iOS That includes a vast array of server functionality including App Store caching, etc. Not that it really matters. Thought this was about the roadmap, why do you want to change subjects, yet again?

            Maybe you didn’t know but iOS is, more or less, a fork of OS X. Wherever iOS is used in mission critical apps, OS X is also being used for them. Oops. Wrong again, Scott.

            Linux is a great server OS with wide industry support. There is good reason to use it. Pretty sure Google uses Linux for its servers as well. BSD isn’t as well-tuned on the server side of things as is Linux but then again Linux GUIs have been a joke for twenty years.

            Oh and Apple does use iCloud, genius. All over the place. It uses it in iWork, the new iCloud drive, synching, Cloud Kit, back-ups, Find my Phone, Find my Mac, I could go on, but the fact that you say Apple doesn’t use iCloud just further demonstrates your laughable levels of ignorance.

          • No, I don’t really appear to have any problems “keeping up”. You aren’t bringing anything new to the table. I see you pretending a gimmick 64 bit processor that’s almost an exact duplicate of someone else’s design, that’s made by a third party, with someone else’s GPU is somehow more relevant than the fact that Apple just had to copy the Moto X, the Note 2, and the Galaxy Gear to stay relevant, yet you are somehow pretending they are still innovative.

            And you clearly have no idea what mission critical means. It means that Apple could disappear tomorrow and it wouldn’t matter. They’ve never done anything that actually matters. They’ve always been an “also ran”. They’ve never been first to market with anything unless you start adding a list of conditions to pretend they were. They didn’t make the first personal computer. They didn’t make the first tablet. They didn’t make the first smartphone. They didn’t make the first UNIX. They didn’t make the first laptop. They didn’t make the first magnetic connector. They didn’t make the first touchscreen. They didn’t invent multitouch. They didn’t invent ANYTHING. Apple is just another tech repackager. Like Dell. Here are places you’ll never find OSX because it isn’t good enough:

            Running a stock exchange
            Running an airplane
            Running a satellite
            Running a car

            Things that can kill you or destroy society. Mission critical things. Apple isn’t mission critical. That’s why they are generally considered a fashion tech company and not a tech company.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I just saw that part about where you got caught lying about having an iPhone 6 on your blog. That’s great stuff! Must have been some of that work you were doing for Apple.

            I lol’d.

            You brought up the roadmap, I brought up the fact that Apple was moving along the roadmap faster than Samsung and other Android OEMs. Then you started whining about processor speed and benchmarks. Then you started whining about OS X in the enterprise.

            And you still haven’t explained why its taken Android OEMs a year to catch up with ARM’s roadmap.

            “I see you pretending a gimmick 64 bit processor”

            What is this sentence supposed to mean, exactly?

            “that’s almost an exact duplicate of someone else’s design”

            Almost an exact duplicate of a design from a company Apple co-founded. Samsung uses the same technology and _didn’t_ co-found ARM.

            “that’s made by a third party”

            AMD, ATI, Broadcom, nVidia, and Qualcomm are just a few of the other fabless semiconductor companies out there.

            “with someone else’s GPU”

            Because Android OEMs all make their own GPU, right?

            Silly troll.

            If Apple disappeared tomorrow, one of the most valuable companies in the world would disappear. That would ruin a lot of people’s work. Hundreds of thousands of developers rely on Apple’s platforms for income. They’d notice if it disappeared, chum, whether you like it or not.

            Speaking of companies that come and go. Alta Vista, Lycos, Yahoo. Do we see a trend here?

            First to market doesn’t really matter in the world of business, first to succeed in the market – that is worth something. iTunes Music Store, iTunes App Store, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Mac. If firsts mattered you’d hear everybody talking about the Newton, but you don’t.

          • Lol, the best part is that was a friend of mine named Koushik Dutta. You’ve probably heard of him. I made it obvious. I can’t out who I borrow tech from because it’s a friend that lives right across the hall from me that isn’t supposed to be letting me borrow things. I have the China “Asian Sources” connection. He has the big players connection. So he has my MI4 review unit and I have his iPhone 6.

            Note: It doesn’t feel like an Apple product. You’ll see.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You can talk to Apple about your sources. 😉

            You wanted to talk about the roadmap until you couldn’t answer for the failure of Android OEMs to follow that same roadmap.

            Then you wanted to talk about clock speed until it was pointed out that your talk of benchmarks was a red herring to avoid discussion of Android and Android OEMs complete and utter failure to make a timely 64-bit transition.

            Then you wanted to talk about enterprises and servers, more red herrings, because you got called out on your benchmark herring.

            Now you’re going to pretend that you didn’t toss out any of those red herrings, that you actually were able to answer for the technological incompetence of the Android family.

            Apple is worth more than Google.
            Apple is worth more than Samsung.
            Apple has higher profits than Google.
            Apple has higher profits than Samsung.
            Seems like the market is who you need to convince.

            My guess is investors will laugh your opinions off just like programmer do.

          • Um, as an Investor yay Apple. As an enduser, I can afford better quality products. When you grow up, you’ll understand. After you become a Republican. We love companies like Apple that take advantage of folks like you.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You really are a funny little troll.

            You can’t back-up your comments about the roadmap, you can’t explain why Android OEMs have failed to deliver on the ARM roadmap -nearly a year after Apple did- which you claim was the only enabling factor in Apple’s delivery of a 64-bit cpu so you resort to more personal insults.

            Way to go, Scott! What a logic, cogent, and well-reasoned response!

            /sarcasm

          • You just keep proving you haven’t actually read the ARM Roadmap. 64 bit wasn’t expected until the end of this year, beginning of next. But if you want to pretend Apple did something special by using IP that isn’t theirs to make what amounts to a incomplete inefficient prototype, then force it on a market, that’s fantastic. We all tell ourselves the little lies that make our lives complete. The difference is when we defend those lies and look like morons like you do now.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            64-bit wasn’t expected until the end of the year, but Apple delivered it nearly a year ago.

            Of course this was due to the fact that Samsung (among others) had all the expertise because they manufactured processors for Apple.

            Amusing how they couldn’t bring all of that expertise to bear to deliver a competing processor in a timely fashion, but then again a 64-bit Android OS was nowhere to be seen at the time so it would have been a fruitless effort. That is why Google and its partners started scrambling to implement 64-bit support in Android after the launch of the iPhone 5s.

            You’re a blogger and a database administrator. You don’t have the authority to define a cpu architectures as incomplete or inefficient.

            I’d wager you’re just repeating talking points – something you accused me of doing when all of the information I’ve provided stems from direct personal experience. That would certainly explain why your only response to the Android industry’s slow adoption of 64-bit technology is more name-calling.

            Apple didn’t force anything on the market. The market embraced Apple because it recognizes Apple’s value. That is how markets work, little buddy. Your assertion that Apple in any way, shape, or form has control over the market demonstrates your complete and utter ineptitude on the subject of economics, though this should come as no surprise.

            We don’t all tell ourselves little lies, Scott. Some of us acknowledge our shortcomings and seek to grow in ways as to allow them to be overcome. Some of us are capable of accepting that some variables exist outside of our sphere of influence and aren’t troubled by that fact. And we don’t all make up lies about having an iPhone 6 to review, either.

            😉

          • See, now you have the answer right in your babble but you won’t just realize it. Samsung are the experts. They are the ones that used their custom manufacturing process to figure out how to make a 64 bit processor even work in the real world. They turned Apple’s crayon drawing copy of the ARM A53 into a rushed, inefficient processor. THEY didn’t bother to release a 64 bit processor yet because they know it’s pointless. Now do you do understand why your fan fiction has nothing to do with reality?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            blah blah insult blah blah insult blah blatant lie blah blah insult

            Apple beat the entire Android crew to the punch with it’s 64-bit platform and it has taken at least partial advantage of the 64-bit nature of the platform – specifically through the Objective-C 2.0 runtime, a detail I wouldn’t expect to be lost on a blogger and database admin.

            Apple provided the specification, Samsung manufactured it. Apple pulled in 150 engineers with its acquisition of P.A. Semi in 2008 with the express intent of designing processors for its iOS devices. It’s perfectly logical that none of Apple’s semiconductor engineers participated in the design and development of their 64-bit processor. That was all done by a company Apple co-founded. Samsung’s role was limited to cloning a design they were handed, as usual.

            Once again as a blogger and a database admin, you simply lack expertise on the subject of microprocessor architecture and have been reduced to replaying talking points with insults because the facts kicked the legs out from under your argument regarding the utility of a 64-bit platform for Apple.

            64-bit was useless to Samsung, it wasn’t useless to Apple. While they may not have yet taken full advantage of the architecture, it certainly has reduced the number of platforms they have to maintain in the long run by striking 32-bit support. Once the last 5c phones die off, Apple can completely drop 32-bit support from its toolchain.

            Once again Apple had been moving its entire line-up toward 64-bit processing since well before the iPhone or iOS ever existed. The only logical reason to delay would be to yield a marketing advantage to Android. That makes great business sense, I must say – though isn’t much of a surprise coming from somebody who lies about having an iPhone 6 in his possession.

          • Apple made iOS require a gig of ram to run smoothly when they tried to copy multitasking from Android, while Android reduced the ram from a gig to 512mb. Then they switched to a pointless inefficient 64 bit processor that eats battery. Hell, the Moto G which has roughly the 32 bit version of the Apple processor gets almost 3 times more battery life while pushing more pixels and costing a third as much. Lets stop pretending Apple has skill at design. Have you seen that hideous thing they call a watch? How about the exposed plastic on their note 2 copy? I’ve been looking at it for two days now. Oh, and wait til you see the battery tests on this thing. I know you can watch the percentage decrease when the screen is on. Until Apple makes a good design again, they’ll just be fashion tech for hipsters. Dell for hipsters essentially. They make decent midrange laptops, and I adore the mac mini, but just about anything else they make is crap, or just not nearly as good as folks would have you believe. They don’t make the best anything, and they have nothing (other than the mac mini) that’s an actual value proposition.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Once again, Scott, you’re displaying little more than ignorance and ineptitude. iOS always featured multitasking, as it was based on OS X which supported preemptive multitasking since the 1980s when it was known as OpenStep. That functionality wasn’t available outside of Apple, but it was most certainly available as evident through integration of iTunes into Navigon prior to support for what you want to call “multitasking” which in actuality has nothing to do with the technical definition of multitasking.

            iOS doesn’t require a gig of ram. iOS 7 runs on the iPhone 4S which shipped with only 512 MB of ram. And yet somehow it still manages to run applications despite your outright lie that the OS needs 1GB. Now that you’ve run out of talking points, you’re resorting to blatant falsehoods.

            You aren’t qualified to comment on any CPU architecture. It isn’t your field, you weren’t educated in related disciplines so there really is not point in addressing your talking point comments on the subject of Apple’s implementation, which – once again – was a full year ahead of Android. Perhaps that has something to do with Apple’s entire infrastructure being 64-bit ready when it shipped the iPhone 5S, from the OS to the Apps. Google on the other hand was sent scrambling to get things together so its OEMs weren’t perceived as johnny-come-lately types. A year later and the public is still waiting. Your entire argument boils down to a claim that Samsung didn’t ship a 64-bit phone because it took Google nearly a year to get 64-bit Android ready. I don’t see how that could possibly construed as an argument in favor of your preferred platform.

            Blah, blah, blah, the 32-bit Moto G has better battery life.

            So what? 2G networks consumed less power than LTE.

            802.11b consumed less power than 802.11n.

            Less power is required for less powerful technologies. Like Android phones.

            Nobody is pretending Apple has design skill. It’s a fact that is well recognized by the market which pegs Apple as far more valuable than Google.

            Wait will I see the battery tests on your supply-chain mock-up? I’ll pass.

            You can harp on all you want about “fashion tech” and that’s about all you can do since you have no answer for the fact that your preferred platform is still catching up with what Apple was doing a year ago.

            Regarding Apple’s value proposition, I’ll take the word of the market over the word of a blogger and database administration that has no clear understanding of economics in that he believe a single company controls the entire market.

          • No, iOS had what us experts call “multi-freezing” where it suspended tasks to memory, killing any network connections. It’s why professionals like myself couldn’t use iOS for things like remote desktop or ssh sessions. iOS didn’t grow up and join Android until iOS 7b3.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Whether or not apps featured a type of multitasking that you found acceptable or not doesn’t change the fact that the OS was constantly multitasking. Maybe you should look multitasking up on Wikipedia so you could actually understand what it means. It has nothing to do with GUI control of applications or programs, but rather refers to the technical ability of a microprocessor to concurrently execute multiple process. The springboard was always running, the phone app was always. That is why you could get a phone call if you were playing a game or using an app, little buddy. Whether or not you could control the processes doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not the processes were being executed simultaneously on the CPU, which is the scientific definition of multitasking.

            97% of Fortune 500 firms use iPhone in at least some capacity while 98% use iPad in at least some capacity. So while “professional” bloggers such as yourself you may not have been able to use it, real professionals have found many uses for it. Much to your chagrin, I’d imagine.

            I was using VNC and SSH ages ago. I’m not sure why you couldn’t figure it out. Probably had something to do with the same reason you were whining about your problems getting Stratum configured on your blog.

          • Oh, don’t get me wrong. iPad are great for people that can’t touch type. Marketing folks, etc. Still not as good for taking notes as a legal tablet and a pen, but great if you want to give an employee something that makes them feel important. We do this a lot where I work. It’s like giving the slow kid a trophy for participation. Have you noticed how you keep defending Apple? Great tech doesn’t need a defense. It just is good.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Just because you can’t make the technology work for you doesn’t mean millions of others haven’t had that problem.

            I’m not defending Apple, you’re attacking Apple and I’m stating facts that keep obliterating your arguments. This is evident in your anti-Apple bias as evident on your blog, in your ignorant comments about Apple’s platforms, your penchant for name-calling and insulting Apple users.

            My guess is you’re just too poor to afford an iPhone and you’re more than a little bit butt-hurt that your Android device isn’t perceived as a status symbol. Maybe if Samsung pays a few more celebrities to do what celebs happily do free of charge for Apple, you finally stop trying to compensate for your inferiority complex.

            Apple isn’t “tech”, Apple is a company that sells tech, little buddy.

          • I am not attacking Apple, unless reality is biased against Apple. Telling inconvenient truths that go against Apple’s clearly powerful marketing rhetoric is not an attack. You should learn the difference. This information cost you 1 dollar. You can pay me in bitcoin. Thanks.

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          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’ve been consistently lying about Apple i.e. “iOS needs a gig of ram”, “iOS didn’t have multitasking until iOS 7”, “Apple isn’t utilizing 64-bit architecture”. I’ve shot each and every one of these lies down, one by one. It was cute

            “Unless reality is biased against Apple”

            Now Apple controls reality just like it controls the market, right?

            Your blog is proof of your anti-Apple bias and certifies your status as an Android fanboy, as do your comments and lies, as well as your personal insults strewn throughout this discussion.

          • No, my blog is clearly satire most of the time. You sound like someone mad at The Onion for picking on Obama. So far all you’ve proven is an ability to make yourself look like a fool by using appeal to popularity logical fallacies, and very transparently quoting me out of context. If your goal is to get idiots to believe your nonsense while turning off anybody with half a brain by attempting to shoehorn iOS into OSX arguments because OSX is clearly the only thing you kinda understand (I work with actual UNIX) as a lowly programmer, you have succeeded. That will be one more dollar.

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          • KefkaPelazzo

            You were the one who appealed to popularity.

            “Have you noticed that nobody is backing your position?”

            And then I pointed out my comments had more up-votes than your own.

            I’m simply citing market value as representative of Apple’s value. The market is said to behave rationally. Meanwhile you offer claims that reality is biased toward Apple and that Apple controls the market. Now you want to frame it in the context of appeal to popularity, but buying stock isn’t a matter popularity, it is a matter of investment, it is a matter of what thousands of investors think is a better bet. Judging by market value, that is Apple.

            Oh and for the record BSD is closer in lineage to “actual UNIX” than the Linux systems you like to play around with. Just saying.

            You better get used to begging for money on the internet. My guess is that is the only future possible for a database administrator turned blogger who likes to pretend he’s both a software engineer and a hardware engineer.

          • Wow. A logical fallacy used to defend using logical fallacies. That’s a whole new level of dumb. And you don’t even see it. One more dollar.

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          • KefkaPelazzo

            It’s hilarious that after all those ad hominem, red herrings, straw men, arguments from ignorance and scope fallacies that you’ve put forth, that you’d accuse me of the very fallacy you committed when you falsely claimed nobody was backing up my position.

            My position is rooted in facts, I don’t need popular support and by your own comments we can see the same isn’t true about you.

            We’re entirely different people, though. I’m not some out-of-work database manager running around calling people names on the internet while simultaneously claiming to be a professional and lying about being in possession of technology I’ve never even seen with my own eyes. I don’t think corporations control the market nor do I believe that reality is biased in favor of a company.

            Your suggestion that “reality” can demonstrate a bias in favor of a corporation is a a clear demonstration of the hazards of a lack of mental health care.

          • Go ahead and point out my logical fallacies. Thanks.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You claimed nobody was backing-up my position: “Have you noticed that nobody is backing your position?”

            Those quotes indicate your own words. This was a clear appeal to popularity, the very same fallacy you accused me of when I suggested that the market paints a clear picture of the value of both Apple and Google.

            You tossed out multiple red herrings including discussion of nVidia’s K1 processor, clock speed, and enterprise servers when pressed for an explanation as to the inability of Android OEMs to rapidly follow the ARM road-map which you brought-up. I’m chalking these up as scope fallacies as well because when you had no answer to the challenge, you resorted to trying to discuss a different area in which your platform of choice wasn’t as far behind Apple as it is in the case of 64-bit architectures.

            Your arguments from ignorance can be seen in your pseudo-authoritative statements on the subject of whether or not 64-bit was a marketing gimmick and in your statements on the efficiency of Apple’s microarchitecture.

            As for ad hominem you’ve referred to Apple users as “idiots” and you’ve personally insulted me a multitude of times.

            And then there were the outright lies about iOS i.e. no multitasking, requires a gig of ram. From what others say about you, though, lying isn’t an uncommon behavior for you and your “iPhone 6” supply chain mock-up.

          • Um, you should probably look up the definition of logical fallacies and the various kinds. You disagreeing with statements isn’t logical fallacy. Just like you not liking reality isn’t logical fallacy either. In short, your delusion isn’t reality.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            One doesn’t agree or disagree with a fact. A fact is not a matter of opinion.

            You attacked me personally id est ad hominem.

            You tried to sidetrack debate on the roadmap id est red herring.

            You tried to switch scope to an arena of favor id est scope fallacy.

            You implied that a lack of vocal support disproved my statements of fact i.e. appeal to popularity.

            You assumed Apple wasn’t utilizing 64-bit when you claimed it was a marketing gimmick, id est appeal to ignorance. You stated it was true because to you, it hadn’t been proven false. You tried to force a false dichotomy as well by insisting memory addresses were the only manner in which utility could be drawn from a 64-bit microarchitecture.

            I was reading treatises on logic and logical fallacies when I was 12, mate. I was the first one to even raise the subject of fallacies when I noted the counterarguments of fanboys were limited to ad hominem.

          • Yeah, you don’t understand the concept at all. Which is probably why you appear to be bereft of critical thinking skills. You are even trying to make up new ones. Just go learn. Stop being so “apple” about things where you just make things up that sound good. Be intelligent, not apple.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Coming from a person who believes reality is biased in Apple’s favor, coming from a person who thinks Apple controls the market, coming from a person who is known by others to be a blatant liar, coming from somebody who has demonstrated themselves to be a blatant liar in your exchanges with me, I’m not really too concerned with what you think about my intellect.

            My critical thinking skills are leaps and bounds beyond your own. Unlike you, I’m not arguing about things I’ve read other fanboys write about. I’m talking about facts, not matters of opinion.

            What fallacies am I making up, little buddy?

            Appeal to Popularity or Argumentum ad populum is discussed on RationalWiki.

            Argument from ignorance or argumentum ad ignorantiam is discussed on RationalWiki

            Personal attacks or Argumentum ad hominem is discussed on RationalWiki

            Red herring is discussed on RationalWiki.

            Why don’t you just quit being a fanboy and spreading outright lies to feel better about your platform of choice, little buddy?

          • Apple hasn’t controlled the market in four years. All they’ve been doing is following Google and Samsung to smaller tablets, larger phones, plastic phones, and wearables. Every iOS release has been old Android feature Christmas. Be it notifications, Wallet, quick settings, live wallpapers, and hundreds of other things they’ve copied. They appear to be completely out of original ideas. Copying the Samsung Note phones and the Samsung Galaxy Gear watch was just more proof. You can’t control a market with only 12 percent mobile market share. They’ve done decent copying though. People seem to like iOS 7. I can’t stand the pastels personally, but thankfully if you use more mature cloud offerings like Google’s, you can rid yourself of all the dayglow icons, then throw a nice dark background behind it all to get rid of the feeling that you are working over a child’s fingerpainting that was left out in the rain.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You recently claimed Apple controlled the market, now you’re backpedaling on that?

            Like you’ve apparently backpedaled on the made-up fallacies?

            Apple tested the plastic phone waters with the 5c and abandoned it entirely.

            They don’t want to make cheap phones. That is what Android is for.

            Now we’re going to hear all about how you feel like Apple stole features from Android that were implemented on dozens operating systems before.

            Of course, most people in-the-know know that before the iPhone was introduced, most of Google’s Android prototypes looked like Blackberries. No other vendor was shipping a mass-market smartphone with the capabilities of the iPhone when it was introduced. Now Android phones look like iPhones and you want to talk about a few software features?

            Windows had notifications before Android did and Apple has a patent cross-licensing deal with Microsoft, IIRC. Not to mention the first versions of iOS had a notification system, it was just more of a a single at-a-glance notification rather than an archive of every notification that has ever occurred on your system. Apple is improving on that with interactive notifications so it may be somewhat useful in the future.

            We had widgets and quick settings in early iOS. Swipe left for iTunes widget and screen orientation lock. That wasn’t borrowed from Android, at all, but it’s another common belief among Android fanboys.

            OS X supported live wallpapers in OS X 10.3. I think they’re a waste of electricity myself. It took them a while to move it to the iPhone, but it was always there.

            10% market share? Are you insane?

            StatCounter shows Apple with a sizable lead in 2 of 3 of the world’s largest economies, and in 3 of the world’s five largest economies.

            In their combined phone and tablet data, as of August 2014, show 33% global share compared to Android’s 42.7% global share.

            You’re just completely out of touch with reality.

          • Where did I say Apple controlled the market? That would be a lie. Something a fanboy would say with no knowledge of the market. The reality is that all high end phones are Android. The iPhone is midrange, and has been since the 3GS. They FINALLY released a phone that is better than 720P. That’s how far behind they are. They still are stuck with low power dual core phones that really need four cores. They copied aluminum phones from HTC, but didn’t copy the central spine so both the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S have been plagued with bending problems. Just a really bad design.

            Now, are you going to sit there and pretend Apple didn’t steal from Android? Really? In the depths of your ignorance are you that blind?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You said: “But if you want to pretend Apple did something special by using IP that isn’t theirs to make what amounts to an incomplete inefficient prototype, then force it on a market, that’s fantastic.”

            You stated that Apple could force a product on the market.

            Apple can’t force anybody to buy anything.

            The market chose to buy 4 million phones in the first 24 hours following release.

            Both the iPhone 6 and 6+ are completely sold out for their pre-orders in the U.S.

            Like I said, Apple doesn’t control the market.

            I gather your reading comprehension isn’t too good as I’ve been stressing this issue forth days now, since I pointed out that you don’t seem to know how markets work.

            I laughed when I saw how by your own definition, no “high-end phones” are 64-bit. Good stuff. Seriously though, you should ask yourself who you’re trying to convince.

            You really must hate yourself, since you say “People pretending to be experts rub me the wrong way”.

            The original iPhone was aluminum and Apple had been utilizing a lot of aluminum construction in their prodcucts prior to the launch of the iPhone so that claim that they took that design cue from HTC is, like everything else that comes out of your mouth, a very entertaining joke, at best.

            Your own lie that Apple was following Android with plastic phones was destroyed with the launch of the all aluminum iPhone 6/6 Plus. Hell the first iPhone had an aluminum body, how many Android phones was HTC shipping back in 2007? Amusing how easy it is to disprove your lies. Like your lie about iOS requiring 1GB of ram was destroyed by the fact that even iOS 7 runs on the 4S, a device with only 512 MB ram. Or your lie that you had an iPhone 6 for review when all you had were photos of a supply chain mock-up. Or your 10% market share claim that stat counter obliterated, as the facts tend to do to your arguments so often.

            Android stole the whole conceptive a high-end touchscreen smartphone from Apple, prior to the iPhone their prototypes all looked like Blackberries so I’m not going to quibble over a few technologies other vendors (including Apple) implemented before Android, just to cater to your envy driven claims that Apple stole X feature from Android. In other words, I’m not even going to dignify that with a response.

            Cue your next logical fallacy.

          • Yeah, excellent example of you quoting me out of context and assuming things not in evidence because you are delusional, and lack critical thinking skills. Good job.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Hey look, when confronted with your outright lies about iOS ram requirements, and claims of 10% market share you have nothing but more ad hominem arguments to respond with. And you want to talk about logical fallacies? How about those fallacies you said I made up?

            No amount of context would alter your lies about iOS ram requirements, about iOS marketshare, or iOS multitasking abilities.

            You think reality is biased for or against corporations and I’m delusional?

            You think database administration qualifies you to comment on the efficiency of micro architectures and I’m delusional?

            Every other statement that comes out of your mouth is an outright lies and I’m delusional?

            Maybe you should learn to keep track of your lies better.

            Your entire knowledge of critical thinking skills is limited to what you picked up in your DBA course at your local junior

          • Look at the lies you’ve told just in that character barf. We all can see them. If you have to be dishonest to make a point (like Apple does) you have no ethics. I think you’ve picked the perfect company to idolize. One that shares your lack of ethics, that has the maturity of a stuck-up cheerleader extra from a Meangirls movie.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You get caught in not one, not two, but three lies, and yet I’m the one being dishonest?

            What “we” see is you lying about iOS multitasking, iOS market share, and iOS memory requirements, and yet I’m the liar?

            Your technical skills amount to DBM/DBA yet you claim expertise on the topic of microarchitecture, and I’m the one who lacks ethics?

            You go around calling people “idiots” and “moron” yet claim to be a professional?

            No sale, little buddy.

            I saw another user comment that people people tend to laugh at you in these exchanges. I’m beginning to understand why; you’re nothing but a hatred-motivated fanboy.

            Your further attacks on the ethic and maturity of both myself and my preferred platform serve to highlight your vitriolic bias toward Apple and once again demonstrate your need to resort to ad hominem arguments and other fallacies when confronted with the facts. In this case, the facts are: you lied about Apple’s utilization of 64-bit technologies, you lied about iOS ram requirements, you lied about iOS market share, and you lied about iOS multitasking capabilities. The latter lie was especially amusing in that it was easily disproven by the fact that a user could receive a call while listening to iTunes even on the very first iPhone.

            I’m sorry if the facts took all the fun out of repeating the talking points fanboys blinding accept as gospel.

            I’m sorry if doing so forced you to resort to blatant and easily exposable lies as a means of defending your superiority complex and fanboy attitude.

            The irony of being lectured on the subject of maturity by a person who offers nothing but ad hominem when faced with a list of their own lies isn’t lost on me. 🙂

          • *facepalm* why are you still talking? You don’t have anything to say. I’m warning you. Up until now it was just funny typing two or three sentences and watching you hit me with a bible worth of nonsense. Now you are getting boring.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Nope. You ran your mouth about subjects beyond your expertise, got called out and exposed, and resorted to laughably unbelievable lies to try to save face and then got called out on those as well. And now you don’t want to play anymore because you’re finally realizing the futility of trying to spread your lies and disinformation about Apple and its platforms around me.

            One more clueless fanboy exposed.

          • Thank you for shortening your babble. I’m glad you listened. No, you pretty much just look like a fool. Repeated unprovoked attacks, like a zealot does. See, I was telling inconvenient truths about apple. And you are so psychologically damaged you thought I was talking about you. You took my truth about Apple personally because you have identity issues. You’ve made your use of Apple products a core component of your personality like any religious zealot. It’s very telling.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I haven’t attacked you, Scott,

            I’ve pointed out how your statements are lies, misperceptions, and at times hypocritical i.e. claiming you’re a professional while spouting like you’re on a grade school playground.

            I’ve highlighted your repeated logical fallacies.

            I’ve demonstrated how truth and facts simply do not matter to you, but I haven’t attacked you.

            Unless you believe that calling you a “clueless fanboy” –based on your own blog as proof of your bias, based on your repeated lies about Apple and its technology, based on the fact that your beliefs are rooted in fiction rather than fact, based on the fact how every other statement you make is a lie, based on the fact that you consider me an “idiot” just for using Apple products, based on the fact that you’ve called me a “moron” for posting facts inconvenient for your talking points, based on the fact that you’ve called me delusional (when you believe reality is biased for or against corporations)–somehow constitutes an unprovoked “attack” on you then there really is no end to your ignorance.

            I’m not attacking Google and Android when I note that they’re a year behind Apple’s technology, either. It’s just a fact. Or does Google have a 64-bit mass market smartphone that I don’t know about?

            You lied about iOS multitasking capability, admittedly probably out of your own ignorance of the technical definition of multitasking. You lied about the memory requirements of 1GB stating that iOS needs 1GB of ram, a patent falsehood as the latest publicly available version of iOS runs on the iPhone 4S which features only 512 MB of ram. You lied about market share claiming Apple had less than 1/3rd of their current share when you said they hold “10%”.

            You think Apple can force the market to buy it’s products, you think reality is biased for and against corporations, you think your history of database administration and blogging qualifies you to comment on microarchitectures, and yet I’m psychologically damaged? I’m delusional? Reality doesn’t have feelings toward corporations, little buddy. Apple doesn’t force anybody to buy their products, or their stock.

            I may may Apple a component of my life, but it is to my advantage to do so. I’ve certainly better mental health than somebody who feels a need to attack the intelligence of others based on the products they choose to use.

            I think you’re just butthurt because you use a second rate platform and I got all the up-votes.

            Just saying.

          • Oh, you are digressing. Now you are using 564 words when 4 would have sufficed. You can just say. “I’m sorry, I suck”. Which would floor me. You have demonstrated that you live in a bubble reality where Apple invented everything first, and society would have crumbled to dust without them.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I’m sorry you suck, man, but don’t forget you asked me to say that. Next thing you’ll be crying I insulted you again.

            I never claimed any firsts on Apple’s part, aside from successful introduction of generally novel technologies to the mass-market i.e. what matters in the business world. To say I claim Apple made firsts outside of that domain is just one more lie. Your comment doesn’t describe me, only what you *want* t think about Apple users and it betrays and underscores the fact that you are a fanboy.

            In closing you’re a liar (iOS 7 runs fine on 512MB ram, iOS has always supported multitasking and iOS has > 10% share).

            You’re a fanatic (who attacks others verbally and insults them based on their platform of choice).

            You’re a hypocrite (you’ve spammed insults at me but get butthurt when somebody identifies you for the clueless fanboy you are).

            Your mental health is in question (reality doesn’t have biases toward corporations and Apple does’t force the market to buy its products).

            You suffer from an inferiority complex (evident in your need to brag about on the internet about the “nice things” you think you can afford).

            That said – I’d love to hang out and be verbally abused some more because of my preferences in technology but unlike a “professional” blogger I have a real life.

          • I’m an Apple stock holder. I’m merely disappointed that their innovation died with Steve. I’m old enough to remember the cool Apple of yore. And from a position of experience an unquestionable authority, I critique them. Younger folks that don’t remember how absolutely astonishing Apple used to be couldn’t understand. I once had an Apple rep at my house in Missouri on a Sunday to replace a failed Mac Pro logic board in two hours. You can’t even get that service level from heavy hitters like IBM or EMC. He was gone in 45 minutes. He brought an entire replacement Mac Pro just in case. That’s service. And that’s in the past. Us older guys simply remember what they used to do for their customers. They used to put us first. Then they switched to Intel, moved things to China, and became a toy company that catered to children. All because they experienced success for the first time with the iPod. Then Google became the next Apple. Two guys working in a garage that thankfully still put customer service ahead of profit margins.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’ve been proven to be a liar at least four times in this conversation.

            There is no reason to believe you’re a stockholder in Apple.

            You claim Apple is doomed yet claim you own Apple stock. Thanks, I needed a good laugh. If you actually believed what you said you would have long ago sold your Apple stock and bought into Android. Once again your own words demonstrate the near criminal levels of intellectual dishonesty you demonstrate in nearly every comment you make.

            You’re a liar, Mr. Wilson, it’s a matter of public record.

            First as relates to Apple utilizing the 64-bit Objective-C 2.0 runtime on iOS when theres no 32-bit Objective-C 2.0 runtime.

            Second as relates to your claim that iOS requires 1GB of memory when even iOS 7 works just fine on phones with 512 MB of memory.

            Third as relates to your claim that iOS lacked multitasking prior to iOS 7, you could get a call while playing iTunes on the first version of iOS on the first iPhone.

            Fourth as relates to your claim that iOS has only 10% market share when it’s closer to 50% in the U.S. and 33% globally.

            Fifth you used a photograph of a supply chain mock-up of an iPhone 6 to claim you had an iPhone 6 in your possession for review.

            “Google became the next Apple”

            Not by market value, not by customer loyalty, and not by consecutive years of customer satisfaction. Not by position as a cultural status symbol.

            Your comments once again prove what an ignorant person you are. Before Jobs returned to Apple, they offered free lifetime phone support for most of their products. That ended when Jobs came back because it was losing the company money. Prior to Jobs return I had Macs replaced and serviced after expiration of warranty. With Jobs in place it took a fight just to get an Apple Authorized Service Provider to conduct repairs under warranty. Not that anecdotal evidence is a substitute for empirical facts.

          • Do you have any other material? You realize you’ve repeated yourself now ten times. That’s kinda pathetic. Have a smart person do your apologizing or something.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’re nothing but a paid shill, liar, and troll and I have little business with such people as yourself, Mr. Wilson save for exposing your lies to the public as they are made. 🙂

          • Yes, and the twilight movies made more money than lord of the rings, so they are clearly better lol.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I did a few Google searches and in terms of media franchises, it seems LOTR is ranked in the top 5 globally with Twilight appearing on none of the lists. Once source suggests Twilight’s global earnings at $3,352,322,180 to LOTR’s nearly five billion, so it seems you can’t even get the facts behind your false analogies correct.

            That said, making profit is the fundamental purpose for a for-profit corporation.

          • I mean only in the United States. I’m moving the goalposts like Apple zealots have to do.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Cry about moving the goalposts even as you do so, much, Scott?

            You didn’t qualify your statement as “in the United States”.

            And you’re still wrong.

            Total domestic box office for LOTR was just over one and one half billion.

            Total domestic box office for Twilight was 1.36 billion dollars.

            Last I checked 1.6 was a bigger number than 1.3.

            Do you see how that works, Scott?

          • But Twilight is for rich people and LOTR is for poor people lol. You are just a poor person that doesn’t like Twilight. Twilight is better. Twilight is better constructed. Um, and it invented new technology. It’s a whole new concept. You are clearly just a Twilight hater and an LOTR fanboy lol. You LOTR fanboys just don’t understand the quality of Twilight.

            That’s you.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I guessed you missed the part where you wrong in your assumptions regarding profit, and then wrong again after you tried to limit that to the United States. . Ranting about the “facts” of LOTR and Twilight, which you can’t even get right, after moving the goalposts while complaining about people moving the goal posts isn’t helping your cause.

            You really should lay off the bath salts, mate.

            You use Android, I use iPhone. Only one of us feels so insecure about their choice as to try everybody else what to buy. Use whatever tools work for you, mate, but you need to stop criticizing others for making more informed choices. 🙂

          • I actually use both. I’m just laughing at you essentially. I love seeing some young child get this emotional over Apple’s poorly designed junk.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I’m not the one that is letting an inferiority complex drive me to spam personal insults based on the cell phone you use, mate.

            Just saying.

            Oh and my response wasn’t emotional, it was factual. Fail troll is fail.

          • I figured out that you are the fanboy retard that wrote this pathetic story days ago child.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I wrote this story? Bwahahahaha. So what you just decided to wake up and destroy your own credibility yesterday?

            There is only one of us running around and insulting people on the internet for the phone they choose to use, and it ain’t me.

            It’s amusing what jealousy and envy do to some people. Amusing or sad, I suppose.

          • Hahha. That’s adorable. You think you matter.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            So says the fellow who condescends to tell random people on the internet how “lucky” they are to be subjected to his unique blend of vitriol and abject lies. 😉

          • I know right? It amazes me sometimes the sheer number of people that follow me.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            And yet you’re still so desperate for attention as to spam fail-trolls to necro’d discussion threads. *golf clap*

          • Chris

            Ha! Scott, I’ve seen full length pictures of you on your blog. The only thing you work out is your right arm at your genitalia and your left arm at Dunkin Donuts. You’re a fat f*** without the slightest clue what the inside of gym looks like.

            You work out…lol. You’re killing me dude.

          • Oh, you’re just jealous. I’d be.

          • Chris

            Wow…I’m didn’t expect you to answer so fast. I figured you’d be at gym.

          • I’m not a musclehead. Not anymore anyway. I’m friggin 42. I do jumprope in the morning for cardio, and occasionally run or bike ride. It’s not that hard as long as you eat right. Don’t give up hope. but get your diet right first or all the working out in the world won’t mean anything.

          • Chris

            Oooooh. Jumprope? Really? I’m swooning over your manliness. Too bad the only thing you run to is the ice cream truck.

            Dude…pictures don’t lie! You’re a fat f***! I wouldn’t care if you didn’t lie about it. Kind of like having an iPhone 6 – I wouldn’t think less of you if you didn’t have one unless you blatantly lie about it.

            You’re fat – that’s okay. Just own it and stop pretending otherwise. My sides hurt from laughing so hard.

          • Oh no. Now you’ve hurt my feelings. You are such a good troll. I’m going to tell all my friends about the reallly good troll I met. hahahahahah

            OH OH OH! Say something mean about MY MOM!!!! hahahahah

          • Somebody Else

            By what criteria are you better than anybody Scott?
            You use Android so that makes you a better person?

            Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning!

          • I use everything because it’s my job.

            Note: I already have an iPhone 6 for review.

          • Chris

            BS. You just got outed in your own blog for lying about having an iPhone 6 for review. You used a supply chain mockup photo from a month ago and claimed it was yours. Apple doesn’t pass out pre-release (and unbranded) phones for review. Especially not to people who then trade them to some random dude who publicizes it on an open blog. Given Apple’s penchant for secrecy and keeping things close, that doesn’t even make sense.

          • Chris

            BS. You just got outed in your own blog for lying about having an iPhone 6 for review. You used a supply chain mockup photo from a month ago and claimed it was yours. Apple doesn’t pass out pre-release (and unbranded) phones for review. Especially not to people who then trade them to some random dude who publicizes it on an open blog. Given Apple’s penchant for secrecy and keeping things close, that doesn’t even make sense.

          • Note: Apple most certainly does. I’ve had the iPhone 5, 5S, and now the 6 a few days before release. I’m wondering how many accounts you have, pretending to be so many people. Does this work on dumb people?

          • Chris

            Please link to even one review (by anybody, ever) that was based on a pre-release unbranded iPhone. Barring that, then just link to even one published article in which a journalist claims to have had access to a pre-release version that wasn’t under Apple’s control. Even if they did, they sure wouldn’t end up on some no-name’s blog.

            I posted the applicable links for everyone’s amusement but they’re waiting for approval. They should show up shortly.

          • Who says it isn’t under Apple’s control?

          • Chris

            I’m talking about the kind of control in which they stand over your shoulder while you’re holding it. And based on the comments on your blog, it doesn’t sound like there’s any control on it whatsoever:

            “OH, and I will have to give this back. I kinda had to beg a friend reviewing both of them to let me borrow this one. He’s borrowing my MI4 I scored.” So Apple doesn’t even know you have it (or wouldn’t if this claim was real.

            “+Dean Wallace honestly, I’d love to find out that this is a fake. It would be one hell of a good fake, but that would explain a lot.” So how could it be under Apple control if you’re not even sure whether it’s genuine or not?

            You’re LYING. Everybody knows it! Continuing to insist that you’re not is just making you look even more pathetic. If you really had one, you wouldn’t be talking about it.

          • Want me to send you an NDA? I don’t have to explain myself to you anonymous dooshbag on the Internet. Your opinions are meaningless.

          • Chris

            If you signed an NDA then you should be crapping bricks over the possibility that someone is going to alert Apple that you’re bragging in an open blog.

            You don’t have to explain yourself to anybody dude. This is the internet. But lying about something so silly gives you zero credibility. No wonder everybody laughs at you.

          • Again, you don’t matter. I literally can’t discuss my arrangement. Think whatever you want.

          • Chris

            Sure dude, sure. You remind me of the guy who sits at the bar bragging about being a secret agent – but he can’t tell you anything about it because it’s secret. If it’s secret then you don’t talk about it to begin with! People don’t breach NDAs against Apple and walk away unscathed. The fact that you’re not worried is proof positive that you’re lying.

            Really, really pathetic.

          • Whatever. Now repeat yourself again so you can get the last word. You strike me as that type of teenager.

          • Chris

            I’ve seen you in a lot of discussion threads and have never seen you give anyone the last word. You have a weird pathological need to have the last say. Which is why you won’t be able to leave this alone. Go ahead – prove me wrong.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Oh look, more ad hominem from the database administrator.

            So you signed an NDA with Apple about that iPhone 6?

            LOL.

            Apple’s NDAs prevent even discussing the NDAs.

            Like Chris said, you wouldn’t be running around bragging about it.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Oh look, more ad hominem from the fanboy.

            You’re just a troll, Scott.

            And you’re a pathological liar.

          • cyborx

            i have to laugh, geeks have learned to dick swing lol

          • Thelor

            just admit you are wrong and you got your ass kicked in this argument.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            LOL @ “you got your ass kicked”.

            The ever mature fandroids strike again!

            On the contrary I’ve demonstrated how 64-bit architectures have been a core of Apple’s focus since before the iPhone shipped, I’ve pointed out how the Objective-C 2.0 runtime, and Apple’s new Swift language, rely on the Objective-C 2.0 runtime I’ve shown that this has led to a significant increase in apps available on the App Store.

            And what’s that Android users always say, choice is good?

            Apple would have had to develop a 32-bit version of the Objective-C 2.0 runtime which would have been a legacy product the day it shipped. Every Apple product launched since the iPhone 5s has been 64-bit highlighting the fact that 32-bit was a dead end path at Apple. Sure they should have spent a lot of money and shipped dated technology just so you didn’t feel as bad about owning a second-rate phone.

          • krohmium

            Instance variable? What are you a first year CS101 student? Your mockery and name calling is disgusting. You sound rather immature. You keep throwing around 64 bit programming environment change but you fail to realize x86 != ARM. Stop drinking the cool aid.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I don’t think they discuss the FBC and fragile binary issues in CS101, mate. Yes, I’m the exact opposite of everything I said I was, that makes perfect sense.

            And I’ll note I don’t see you chastising the opposition whom also engaged in name-calling and snide comments. No real surprise as you want to throw your hat in with the hopelessly ignorant.

            So it’s your proposition that it is easier and more effective to maintain compilers, debuggers, and other tools for a 32-bit architecture from one company while using a 64-bit architecture from another company? That’s so clever, I wonder why Apple didn’t think of that?

          • 64bit

            wow need all that 64bit power to look at cat videos and instagram pics.. u effing moron.

            We could build a 256-bit processor right now, but we don’t *need* a
            256-bit processor. You’d make enormous tradeoffs in die size and
            complexity, and to what end?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Maybe your vendor APIs and development toolchain weren’t ported to 64-bit platforms in beginning in 2006, but Apple began that move back with OS X 10.5 or thereabouts. Apple was in a position of maintaining 32-bit API and language support alongside tools for 64-bit systems. It was a giant waste of money, and they had already made the leap on the rest of their hardware. You can cry about how unnecessary it is, in your opinion, but the fact remains that it was massively beneficial to Apple and their developers to unify the toolchain on a 64-bit platform. Your argument is akin to the notion that IBM should have continued producing 16-bit systems after they made 32-bit systems, just because there were still some valid uses for 16-bit operating systems. The world is moving forward, friend, as it always does. I’ve seen the transition from 8 to 16 to 32 and now to 64, myself. There were always a few afraid of progress, decrying it as unnecessary. The desktop clearly benefitted from being a 64-bit device. I’m not sure if you’ve followed any of the transitions, say with drivers, plug-ins, and other modular systems during the move to 64-bit on the desktop? It was a nightmare in a lot of cases. Once the computer was 64-bit, it made sense for the devices to follow just for the sake of interoperability.

          • DarkMatter

            Well put.

          • trob6969

            IF Apple’s 64-bit chip isn’t a gimmick then you should be able to list at least one real-world function it enables its user to do that the previous 32-bit iPhone can’t…waiting…

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Objective C 2.0 runtime.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            While afforded non-fragile instance variables in Objective-C software on iOS (that is to say, essentially all software available for iOS including iOS itself).

          • trob6969

            What I meant by “real-world function” is a specific task that it enables its user to perform when using the phone in normal everyday usage.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Nice try to now limit the scope to consumer facing technologies. Writing software for OS X and iOS is a real world function, genius. The Apple App Store has created many a millionaire.

            Making a software class with non-fragile instance variables, something hundreds of thousands of OS X and iOS developers are thankful for, is a real world function, little buddy. IIRC the modern memory management solution for 99.9% of all iOS software including iOS itself all depend on ARC which was a feature of Objective-C 2.0.

            Do your homework, little buddy. For programmers, such things are everyday usage. And they translate to better apps for consumers whether you like it or not.

          • trob6969

            …yeah, a gimmick then.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            When your entire platform revolves around the million plus apps developers have turned out for iOS, improved development tools aren’t a gimmick. I’m sorry if your brain doesn’t know how to make the connection between better tools and better software, but then again you probably haven’t been writing software for twenty-five years.

          • trob6969

            Ok Mr. High-and-mighty-i-know-everything, I’ll break my question down even simpler for you to understand because you just don’t seem to comprehend so well: what does the iPhone 5s with it’s 64-bit processor enable the normal tech-illiterate consumer to do that they will actually take notice of in everyday use as compared to the iPhone 5?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Oh, I’m sorry. Did you start running your mouth based on talking points without understanding the actual facts of the matter? Your mistake, mate.

            It enables the normal tech-illiterate consumer to use more and better apps made by more productive developers. You know, apps, those things that actually sell on Apple’s platform?

            Improved developer productivity results in a wider and more diverse range of apps for end-users. Aren’t you Android users always talking about how choice is good? I guess Android users don’t know much about choice when it comes to apps given that AppBrain found about 30% of Google Play apps to be malware, spyware, or adware. Apple draws in about 500% more revenue from apps than Google does. At WWDC there were 900,000 apps on the App Store. Today there are 1.3 million apps on the App Store. Those same apps helped Apple earn a lead in 2 of 3 of the world’s largest economics, and 3 of 5 of the world’s largest economies. Those same apps that keep revenue flowing into the pockets of Apple’s third-party developers and keeps them coming back to make exceptional apps for the platform.

          • trob6969

            Huh? I asked you a short, simple question and you perceive it as me “running my mouth…”?! Lol. C’mon now don’t go all ‘delusional’ on me. Try to stay grounded in reality!…lol. smh…but anyway, it took you this long to give a coherent answer and its a general one using words like ‘better’ and ‘diversity’ without any additional information to support them? You do realize that the basis for any debate is to provide specific details to back up such general words, right? Apparently not…but I see what the issue is, you CAN’T answer my question in a decisive way so I’ll be moving along now…but for future reference, using lame attempts at sarcasm doesn’t add any merit to what you’re saying. You have a good day anyway…smh.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            In one word: “Apps.”

            Is that a simple enough answer for you?

            First you commit scope fallacy demanding a consumer facing benefit, and now you’re going to whine and cry because my answer was too detailed for you.

            I was catching a nap, I’m sorry the whole world doesn’t revolve around responding to your drivel as soon as it posted on the innerwebs.

            Oh look, more ad hominem! Who saw that coming!

            Delusional is committing scope fallacy, then complaining about the level of detail of a given response, and then attempting to lecture somebody on the need to provide specific details. If you want details there are 400,000 new apps on the App Store since last June. There are four hundred thousand specific details. 99.9% of those apps were only possible due to Apple’s 64-bit toolchain and runtime.

            Apple moved to Objective-C 2.0 before the 64-bit iPhone shipped meaning it was originally a 64-bit development. They would have had to waste money and time trying to reproduce all the new features of Objective-C 2.0 for 32-bit platforms, platforms that would be dead within just a few years at Apple.

          • a67543210

            After all your gimmicky talk, the iPhone 6 still has 2012 nexus 4 specs. True or false?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Fact: Apple shipped the 64-bit iPhone 5S nearly a year ago.
            Fact: Android OEMs still haven’t caught up.

            Fact: iPhone 6 supports 16-128GB storage.
            Fact: Nexus 4 maxxed out at 16GB onboard storage.

            Fact: The iPhone 6 camera supports phase detection.
            Fact: Nexus 4 did not support phase detection.

            Fact: Nexus 4’s video maxxed out at 1080P @ 30 FPS.
            Fact: iPhone 6 records 1080p @ 60 FPS

            Fact: Nexus 4 shipped with an Adreno 320 GPU.
            Fact: iPhone 6 features a six cluster GX6650 GPU.

            Fact: iPhone 6 @ 326 PPI
            Fact: Nexus 4 @ 318 PPI

            Fact: Nexus 4 is 9.1 mm thick
            Fact: iPhone 6 is 6.9mm thick

            You can call those the same specs you want to.

            A spec or specification refers to a specific capacity of a system. And the specs vary outside of the CPU nearly as much as they do inside. Physical dimensions are another part of specs. How thin was the Nexus 4? How much did it weigh?

          • Handy Andy

            64 bit is not usefull unless you have 3+ gb of ram….also there are maybe 3 apps coded for it?
            It’s like having a corvette limited to 30mph and only gravel roads to drive on…there really is no point.
            Afterall foxconn aluminum is what beer cans are made of.
            Also I like mobile computers (android ) and not mobile launchers that cannot multitask.(iOS)

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Obviously you don’t know anything about computer programming and are just parroting what you’ve heard. 🙂

          • 64bit

            shhh stop copying and pasting the marketing blurb from apple.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Sorry fandroid troll, it isn’t a marketing blurb. I’ve been using Apple products since before Windows or Google even existed. I’ve been writing software on Apple platforms since the 1980s. Just because you aren’t intelligent enough to understand the benefits doesn’t mean there weren’t benefits. Apple began moving its entire desktop line to 64-bit (including, you know, the iOS development environment) with OS X Leopard. I doubt you’ve done any programming, but suffice to say in highly modularized systems such as today’s operating systems, it is far easier not to have to jump through a bunch of hoops when moving data back and forth.

        • DarkMatter

          Read up on 64 bit architecture and it is plain to see the iPhone is not using it to its full potential.True Android has yet to adopt 64 bit but even at 32 bit some benchmarks on high end Androids put it close to the Apple 64 bit.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            They don’t have to use it to it’s full potential to use it. 🙂

            Sounds like you need to read up on architectures if you think 64-bit is going to be faster than 32-bit just because it’s 64-bit. That isn’t how it works so benchmarks are kind of meaningless. My point was simply that Apple is utilizing 64-bit hardware and software for it’s developer tools, which given its developer revenue advantages over Android, seems to be a major point driving the platform.

          • Bumper69

            You sound like an 8 year old… 64 is a gimmick

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Oh look, more ad hominem from another ignorant fandroid. That is why Google is rushing work on 64-bit Android, 64-bit Chrome, and Google OEMs and their suppliers are rushing to churn out 64-bit phones, right?

            Sorry, pal – but watching the whole Android family jump on the bandwagon after iOS and iPhone made the move kind of takes the legs out from under your argument.

          • No, they are merely following the ARM Roadmap. Something you can Google. Or you can continue to “Apple it” instead of Google it, which means to just makes something up you like hearing.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            The same ARM roadmap behind the Snapdragon and Krait? Which explains why it only took their competition a year to catch up to speed, right.

          • Bumper69

            You are so confident about
            your statement that no one can argue with you. Seems to me you know everything
            about everything. Sorry man. I guess the rest of the world owes you a huge apology.
            Now, it is time for you, to change your tampon and let the big people talk
            about their personal taste in mobile technology.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Calling people “idiot”, “retard”, and “inferior” isn’t really an argument, mate. It’s not a matter of opinion, either, it is a matter of fact.

            Apple began moving to 64-bit with OS X Tiger and the G5 in 2005.

            Apple launched the 64-bit only Objective-C 2.0 with OS X Leopard in 2006.

            Apple was using manual retain-release memory OR garbage collection for memory management prior to that point. In 2011, Apple implemented Automatic Reference Counting as a replacement for garbage collection. ARC was one of many features that would have been non-trivial to back-port to 32-bit devices.

            Apple faced a clear choice to move iOS development forward. Either back-port the 64-bit only Objective-C 2.0 runtime and all the work they had built on top of it to a dying 32-bit architecture or to move the iOS architecture forward. Apples choice was the correct one as evident in that Apple hasn’t shipped any 32-bit platforms since the launch of the 5S and as evident in that Google and Android OEMs are now jumping on the 64-bit bandwagon) or they had to move the architecture forward according to what Scott Wilson claims is a well known roadmap for the progression of the ARM architecture.

            “Now, it is time for you, to change your tampon”

            Wow, you really elevated the level of discussion with that one.

            So you’re a misogynist in addition to being ignorant. Congratulations!

          • Not just some. There were faster chips days after it was released that are 32 bit. You can’t even compare Apple’s marketing gimmick to something like the K1.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I’m sure the extra registers, despite not being unique to a 64-bit architecture, really helped slow it down.

            Really?
            The K1? A processor designed for video games? That makes as much sense
            as comparing consoles to desktops. And how many mass market phones is
            that shipping in, by the way?

          • So now that you’ve been owned by reality, you are just going to start shouting random crap that has nothing to do with how wrong you were? You remind me of my 10 year old nephew that knocks over the chess board.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            If by “owned by reality” you mean, “now that you’ve demonstrated to ignorant fanbois why their assumptions about Apple’s platforms were a gross misrepresentation of facts at best”, I can work with that.

            Random crap? You’re the one that started prattling off about the K1, a CPU that isn’t featured or likely to be featured in any high volume Android phones. You know what else is faster than the CPUs in an iPhone? IBM’s high-end Power CPUs. And Intel’s Xeon family is just as well, but guess what – none of those are shipping in phones.

            You resorted to discussing the K1 because nothing in the Android family can compare to what Apple was shipping last year.

          • The Snapdragon stuff was benchmarking faster than the 5S DAYS after its release. The N5 was faster than the 5S. You have no argument.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I thought we were talking about 64 bit architectures, Scott, Now you want to talk about benchmarks which proves you absolutely have no expertise whatsoever as no genuine authority would ever cite a company sponsored benchmark.

            Besides it was about the roadmap, remember? The roadmap Apple has been able to follow about a year ahead of Android OEMs. Must be because they don’t design their own SoCs. Samsung does all that, which of course explains Sammy’s failure to ship a 64-bit phone, amirite?

          • Do you think I’m so stupid I’m going to let you try to change the subject when I prove you wrong again? Are you 16?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            You’re the one trying to change the subject, Scott. You wanted to talk about the roadmap and so I asked why Android OEMs despite following the same roadmap are a year behind Apple in terms of 64-bit CPUs?

            Then you wanted to change the subject to speed, shifting away from discussing the fact that Samsung, the very company you implied designed Apple’s SoC, and other Android OEMs haven’t been able to ship a 64-bit phone worth a dime as yet.

            I tried to bring the focus back to the utter failure of Google and Android OEMs on the ARM roadmap, and now you’re going to accuse me of trying to change subjects?

            “I don’t think so, Tim.”

          • Rex Xu

            It doesn’t matter if Apple designed something first, or released the best phone. In a few years, it will not matter. This is capitalism.

            And Apple’s success is in no way your success, so enjoy your 64-bit iPhone.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Actually, Apple’s success contributes to my own given that I develop software in their ecosystems. It’s all relative, friend.

          • Rex Xu

            I am happy to hear that you have been successful developing software for Apple, but it is the quality of your software that is supporting you, not Apple’s success. Unless you hold stock in Apple (many people do, but not very profitable unless in very large quantity) their success does not directly translate to yours.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            I would suggest reading Brad Cox’s “There is a Silver Bullet”. It’s about how a lot of programmers these days, aren’t the same sort of assembly hackers they used to be. A lot of them are just hobbyists who don’t have time to develop, say, a framework for writing image kernels. OS X gives us that framework as an object-oriented system that is easy to extend. If I want to write a new string handling method, I can do so with a category or by subclassing the existing class, I don’t have to reimplement all of the work myself, no Apple developers do. That is one of the big reasons why the iOS App Store took off so quickly: a really solid set of OOP API.

      • 64bit

        I bet you also swallowed the whole “we don’t need a bigger screen” marketing bull.

        • KefkaPelazzo

          I still haven’t. That is what tablets are for. Personally I probably will just buy a 5S when it comes time to upgrade and hope Apple gets over this idiotic trend or at least offer some options for people who have average sized hands. I can carry two sixteen ounce cans, but seriously even the iPhone 5 was much easier to drop than say the 4S. Not interested.

        • solomonshv

          your mother should have swallowed. i’m have no intention of getting the iphone 6 or 6+ because because they are too big. my employer has purchased an iPhone 6 for me and i still didn’t even take it out of the box, and i don not plan to. there is no reason to have a phone that size unless you are constantly using things like RDP or teamviewer to control or monitor workstations or servers. i’m sticking to the 5S for the foreseeable future.

          you can see your boyfriend’s instagram photos of his coffee just fine on a 4″ screen. and instead of playing angry birds on the can you should consider reading a book dumb ass.

    • Margo88

      iPhone 6 is just useless, regarding all the new features other smartphones bring in 2014.

    • Morgan Tanner

      You can be an Apple hater, but still the iPhone 6 sold much more units than Galaxy Alpha will ever sell, come on they sold more units compared to all the Galaxy line. Do not hate perfection.

  • Um, in a sea of 5″ phones, and with even Motorola going 5″ with the Moto X, the point to the Galaxy Alpha is the best small phone. And now that the iPhone 6 has been released and has the ugly back and ugly huge bezels, and the Alpha is a smaller, much better design than the way too huge iPhone 6 while having the same size screen, it just makes the Alpha look that much more attractive to actual users.

    • Ryguy

      I’ll put any amount of money on the iphone 6 destroying the samshit alpha in overall sales. And not because “sheeple” will always blindly use apple products. But because it will actually be a superior, better performing product.

      • It’s already inferior. We know it is. There is no reason for a 4.7″ phone to be as big as last year’s 5″ android phones. That’s just poor design. The exposed plastic on the back is also new one for Apple on what is supposed to be a flagship.

      • Rex Xu

        Sales is a measure of marketing, not of quality. Do millions of people spend money on tobacco because their products are superior?

        I used to agree with audiophiles that Beats Audio simply did not have high quality audio playback, and that they were the “Apple of headphones” due to their pricing and hardware. Ironically, Apple turned around and bought beats! For those of you that are not into music, Bose is currently leading the industry with clearest audio playback and noise cancellation, while Beats leads in sales and is more or less a fashion statement.

    • Scott I applaud your patience in replying to the guy who kept recycle his argument and calling people names. He sounds so proud of his “many achievements” I can’t help but smile reading this verbal ping-pong while noticing that you’ve never had to try to prove your credential nor calling names. Good for you.

      • I’m no angel. I can get mouthy. You are just catching me when I’m calm.

        • Rohi

          You’re been extremely calm for replying so much to Kefka’s ignorance!

      • KefkaPelazzo

        Right, he’s running around calling people “idiots”, “son”, etc. and I’m the one calling people names?

        So far in this conversation I’ve heard fandroids refer to Apple users as idiots, sheeple, mindless. I was called a “tard” by a DJ several times and had my personal life and relationships questioned. I was told I was acting like an 8 year old, that I was immature, all because I posted facts that were inconvenient for the Android talking points.

        And stating one’s credentials or expertise or experience does serve to illuminate a person’s level of credibility on a given subject. The only reason to avoid discussing them is a lack of relevance.

        • Rex Xu

          Shame on Scott for calling you “Son”… But I don’t think the DJ’s comments were in regards to your phone preference. To the vast majority, it is how you act that matters and not the phone in your pocket.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            And “idiot”, and “inferior”, etc. Just a handful of the names I’ve been called for daring to challenge the “64-bit was a marketing gimmick” mantra of the Android fanbois.

            The DJ’s comments related to the fact that I didn’t jump on the “64-bit was a gimmick” fanboy bandwagon, plain and simple. Things only got less civilized around here when I stated facts relating to Apple’s developer toolchain that were inconvenient for the marketing myth.

          • Rex Xu

            I think you made your point clearly on how Apple helped in developing 64 bit computing. The problem is that everyone else is arguing that 64 bit is not necessary.

            Objective C runtime, which you stated was “The basis on Apple’s entire development toolchain” runs only on 64 bit. However, that transition was brought on by Apple, a requirement forced onto you by Apple. It was Apple’s decision that the future of their APIs will require 64 bit.

            Now I ask you what is the benefit of 64 bit, as there are other programing languages that are available which have no such requirement. I understand why you need 64 bit if you were programing for Apple (they are basically forcing it down your throat), but as I said, that is their requirement, and nothing else.

            The vast majority of programs still run in 32 bit. Many devices have not even breached the 3GB of ram required to take full advantage of 64 bit.

            You can talk about your programming experience and how much 64 bit has helped you, but saying “FACT: Apple started doing this” means as much as saying “We turned left” when only time can tell what direction we should be heading.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Well, 32-bit wasn’t “necessary” either. We could all be playing games in 16 colors with polyphonic midi for audio if we really wanted to.

            The transition to 64-bit largely began with introducing 64-bit addressing for their old G5 PowerMac lineup. It began prior to the introduction of the iPhone, for the record.

            To say it was forced by Apple isn’t quite right. The entire industry had already been moving that way with left Apple with a few choices. Insofar as introducing 64-bit technology Apple could have been early, moved along with the pack, or they could have been late. At the time 64-bit addressing was introduced there was a lot of pressure from academics and others in the scientific community to deliver in that arena. In computers they moved fairly early though Intel had the chips available as soon as Apple transitioned of PowerPC. Now the mobile market doesn’t move as fast as the desktop CPU because they are working at smaller sizes, which is much more difficult. That is one of the reasons, aside from power requirements, that we don’t have octo-core Xeons in our phones.

            I don’t think many developers complained either – remember there was no iOS or iPhone at this point. There was widespread developer support for the move. And even a few power users who understood what it’d mean for applications.

            There was beaucoup use for 64-bit on what was their primarily line-up at the time. It is admittedly is less useful on a device with < 4GB ram, but not entirely without utility.

            Transitions are like doorways, there are a multitude of steps involved the use of which may not always seem immediately obvious. Why do you wait until you've opened the door to walk through? Do you try walking through if the door is only halfway open? Now we could blame Apple for that, sure – but when we look to Android we can see it is a process for them as well.

            I mean they didn't have any 64-bit processors, so why after the launch of the iPhone 5s was there a flurry of development on 64-bit Android so significant that tech news sources were picking it up and reporting on it? Of course with no hardware, wasn't that a useless step? And then what about these low-end 64-bit Android phones? Who is taking full advantage of 64-bit technologies in that arena? That hasn't stopped them from working on it.

            Had the 64-bit iPhone been extremely expensive compared to its predacessor, I would have said it was a bad idea. Instead it laid one more stone on the path forward. Just like Google going to work on 64-bit Android OS despite a lack of hardware.

          • Rex Xu

            I never said 64Bit is the wrong direction. It is a welcome improvement, as are all technological advances. I couldn’t care less what company is doing it, so long as it becomes as functional and integral as 32 bit was and still is for the time being.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            If we look at OS X as an example, which I think is fair, 32-bit will become the way forward so to speak. I’m with you, I don’t care who brought it to the table – because it really is just going to encourage the whole industry to move forward. It’s one of those rare examples where competition results in more than just every vendor borrowing from one another.

  • tbr

    i think it’s funny that people argue and call names over a phone … I use the IPhone because I like the design, feels sturdy, and its easy to use. But could care less if you like an android. Awesome, we have phones …

  • Tim

    The conclusion here was rather lame. In the comparison they are basically the exact same phone with different operating systems, but at the end the Alpha is a rip off. Why? I would say if you prefer iOS then get the iPhone and if you prefer Android and like the small form factor then the Alpha.

    If anything you should argue that Alpha is a better value than the iPhone 6. The specs are basically the same or slightly better in the Alpha, and the Alpha is cheaper. Additionally, you get 32 GB of storage vs 16 GB. It also has a removable battery, so you can keep an extra battery in your backpack / briefcase to swap after school / work. Further, it has more features including the LED notification light (essential for me… I would’ve considered the iPhone if it had this feature), and the heart rate monitor (doesn’t matter much to me.)

  • Dank Grooves

    this kefka is some retard hipster that has to pay into the initial principal of every apple item released so that the can try to get booty at the club, having his lamer personality its probably the only way he can catch the glimpse of a chick while he is sitting in the dark corner of the club on his facebook posting on news threads about the release of a mobile device he masturbates to on a multiple time a day basis. that dude just technically smacked him and he is still arguing. sure, its intriguing to have a 64 bit processor in your mobile device, like the dude said, IF YOU EVEN HAVE POTENTIAL TO USE IT. otherwise you are eating up battery. its a damn phone. we all have one……… i dont like apple. wutev. i was disappointed by the alpha, and even by the note 4 due to limitations on either not having an expandable mini sd slot, or, limiting to 64gb. im a turntablist/dj and i have a huge music collection so i was looking forward to as high number as i could get just for room for music and to hold photos or videos i take with my mobile device. owell. ill get a note 4 and settle with 96gb be able to double the amount of music i have on my 48gb device and be happy with it. things like this and this tool ass dude kefka show what the world is coming to. get a life and a girlfriend ya tard

    • KefkaPelazzo

      lol umbadbro?

      • Rex Xu

        Read his post again, he is a DJ, not a programmer like you. If 64 bit helped you so much, that’s great. His credibility is that he is a DJ (creator in music if you will), a demographic that Apple has been trying to reach out to. If he’s not content with something that’s supposed to be targeted for him, then there is something wrong with the product. He doesn’t need a programmer to tell him that DJs need 64 bit.

        • KefkaPelazzo

          Apple does cater to the music crowd, to be sure, Rex though I’m not sure if they cater more to consumer or professional markets. On one hand you have Logic (the app), on the other hand you have the iTunes Music Store.

          From what I parsed out of his text, his biggest issue was storage and Apple’s iPhone 6 offers more space than the device he was talking about. If space was the only issue, it’s a non-issue.

          It doesn’t necessarily mean there is something wrong with the product, does it – just because one or two of the target audience aren’t using it?

          I would offer it more likely is a matter of personal preference for specific patterns of interaction, for specific features. For example it is clear a number of people prefer OS X. Does this mean there is something wrong with Windows? Or Linux? Plenty of people prefer Android, this doesn’t mean something is wrong with iPhone.

          Not to say that you’re wrong, maybe he would use iPhones if they offered more or extensible storage, but I have my doubts in this case.

          I’m not telling him that he needs 64-bit. I’m just trying to help people understand that it was more than a marketing gimmick, that there were tangible benefits for Apple developers. And given the revenue disparity between development on Android and iOS, it seems to me wholly salient to the issue.

          The argument I’m faced with is that 64-bit brought no immediately recognizable consumer benefit even while it facilitated many advances in software development that led to the production of better apps which in turn improves the platform as a whole. That isn’t to say marketing didn’t play a role, but it was just the icing on the cake – so to speak.

          Thank you, for conveying your points with a measure of civility, it is greatly appreciated!

          • Rex Xu

            I understand the perspective you have taken, but his argument is clearly that he makes no distinction between 32bit or 64bit. Although the iPhone 6 will offer much more than the current device, the question still stands as to is it enough. His comments suggest that he wants expandable storage so he will not be hampered by hardware limitations. With the ability to use Micro SD cards, he may have terabytes of data at his disposal with a swap of a card and couldn’t care less about the CPU architecture.

            I agree 64 bit will be prominent in the future, but it is well known that Apple is not currently taking full advantage of 64bit, which is not necessary unless running with more than 3GB of RAM. Yes, software on iPhones theoretically be ready when the time comes that iPhones release with 3+GB ram, but until then, it is simply there for developers like yourself to prepare for that.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            He is free to ignore the benefits that improved development tools have brought to the arena for end-users if he so pleases.

            Bill Gates is said to have made a rather infamous comment about the memory requirements of the average user.

            Unfortunately for that line of thinking, the demands we place on IT systems tend to increase relative to the capabilities of the hardware and software.

            SD cards are neat and all, but that is what the cloud is for. iCloud and iTunes Match provide cloud storage for 25K non-iTunes songs and even more if they are purchased from the iTunes music store. Admittedly it should provide options for still larger collections, outside of iTunes purchases, but the service is quite new and there is a lot of room for growth. It offers virtually infinite degrees of storage (up to 12x as much music as I own) without the hassle of swapping SD cards in and out and other aspects of managing multiple small media. Apple ditched floppies and has largely ditched DVDs in favor of the network.

            64-bit is pretty prominent now. Most Android OEMs are working that way, Apple is already there. The desktop industry was there a decade ago. In time, we may see a need for 128-bit platforms, though it probably won’t be foursome time for most consumer facing devices.

            The 32-bit ram limitation is 4GB per process IIRC.

            Apple doesn’t have to be taking full advantage of it in order to be taking advantage of it. It isn’t a binary situation. Add to that the new processor also increased the number of registers available, though that wasn’t unique to 64-bit technologies.

          • Rex Xu

            Thanks, I understand the benefits of 64-bit and have never argued against the development toward it, but lets return to the DJ. I do not think he is “ignoring” the benefits of 64bit as you have said, but rather that at the current stage, other qualities outweigh it in importance. I personally use the cloud as well (btw Windows has very good plans for large amounts of cloud storage), but my laptop does not have 4G LTE integration, thus I can not access my files anywhere that does not have internet. I do use my phone for wireless tethering (one of the most useful features ever that Apple should adopt), but portable hard drives with 1TB of data each are much more convenient.

          • KefkaPelazzo

            iOS has supported wireless tethering for a while, IIRC. Earlier on there were a lot of stupid carrier restrictions, but not so much these days.

            I haven’t looked into MSFT’s offerings but given the resources available to Redmond I would be surprised if they didn’t have some pretty powerful plans in the works.

            As to lacking connectivity when lacking connection – it is an issue I’m familiar with both as a users and as a developer. Thats why I chose Navigon GPS back when I had to make a drive across country, it had great offline maps – though the storage requirements were a bit much since AFAIK they weren’t using vector graphics. Ate up half my phone storage on my old 3GS.

            Now I’m wondering if anybody has had any luck integrating WiFi drives with tethering.

          • Rex Xu

            Yes, iPhones have wifi tethering as well, sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for clarifying.

          • NK

            Let’s all be honest here, Apple and Google are nothing compared to “The new Blackberry”, I’d love to hear what you have to say about this?

          • KefkaPelazzo

            Having not paid much attention to RiM in years, I’m not in a position to offer useful commentary. Will have to see what those folks have been up to as of late.

          • NK

            You sound like you really know ur stuff, just wanted to here ur opinion on the new blackberry passport.

    • Pojoman

      I feel that if you’re going to call someone a “tard”, and insult them with groundless claims about their personal life simply because they do not share the same view points as you. You should probably learn how to do it without looking like an illiterate moron. Just saying.

    • Rex Xu

      I have never seen the benefit of 64-bit either. That is something that benefits the developer and not the end user (although people may argue that it enables them to create better products for end users). The only software that has required me to use 64- bit (on either phone or computer) was video editing software.

  • Jonathan

    No mention of the Alpha’s removable battery whatsoever. Also, the iPhone 6 might be an “upgrade” over the iPhone 5S but the specs are really slacking my today’s standards. If anything, the Alpha’s specs and features – while not as powerful as the S5 – are still quite impressive when you put it up against the iPhone 6.

  • m3kw

    Dude here surely doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Always referring to bigger numbers = better.

    • Rex Xu

      You mean Dude(s) here. Everyone just keeps arguing bigger numbers, when end consumers want to see a smaller number, and that’s the Price!

  • thisiswhyyouallvirgins

    KefkaPelazzo and Scott Wilson … this is why you all don’t get laid!

  • B Brandon B

    Jesus Christ kids! They are just phones. Arguing on and on like toddlers. Yeah Apple had 64bit first, who gives a rats ass? None of the apps on either platform really take advantage of 64bit as it stands, so everyone go take a cold shower and STFU. Never seen such ridiculousness.

  • Eddy

    A beautifully made phone that finally reaches the screen size that many have hankered for from an iPhone, without sacrificing quality. The iOS 8 software adds a lot of key functionality – and NFC allied to TouchID has huge potential for offline and online payments.

  • does it have a slow motion camera? ;p

  • Sarah Loan

    Galaxy Alpha wins in so many ways. I own and iPhone 5S and i waited to upgrade to the Iphone 6 Plus, but let’s be honest the Alpha looks perfect, specs are epic, and you can make great night shots with the camera.